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open individualism resonates with me

What do you mean?

12:27 AM

Look

12:27 AM

Deleted User

What do you mean?

"resonates with me" means something makes sense & seems right to someone

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yes it sounds like brahman in hindu and tao in taoism

Leiko

Different mind, but same conciousness

@Deleted User - jump how would you tell apart two situations: it's the same consciousness it's different consciousness but it experiences memories of being present the day before?

The latter is called "Empty Individualism”

so you see you have two positions on this subject

12:30 AM

and with tulpamancy there are two positions to your question as well

12:30 AM

and it's hard to say, it's a matter of personal experience and beliefs

Leiko

so you see you have two positions on this subject

Wdym?

12:31 AM

There are theee positions

i think you are getting distracted

Closed Indvidualism (the common sense view) Empty individualism Open individualism

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the point is about your question if tulpas share consciousness or not

Leiko

the point is about your question if tulpas share consciousness or not

Yeah

12:32 AM

I wanted to understand if the person I was talking to, believed that its tulpas shared the same conciousness

Reisen

but it does not need to be disorderly, come with any symptoms, or so on

How did u created your tulpas?

12:34 AM

I'll read something about this stuff

Lucilyn: tulpamancy doesn't really need any complex advice or techniques (edited)

12:36 AM

we just tell people

I see

Lucilyn: "Talk to someone in your head/a tulpa you want to have as if they're there and listening, and expect them to be wanting to respond" (edited)

12:37 AM

keep doing that and anticipating them trying to respond until they start to

12:37 AM

holding the intent for it to be a separate person is very important & does most of the brain work of creating a tulpa

12:37 AM

the expectation & practice tells your brain to start shaping/building that experience

Reisen

Lucilyn: "Talk to someone in your head/a tulpa you want to have as if they're there and listening, and expect them to be wanting to respond" (edited)

I already did a few past years haha

there are many people who will give you more complicated advice than this, but it's not necessary in the end

But I didnt continued

holding the intent for a tulpa to exist in your mind, and practicing interacting with them, is all it takes

Shouldnt I create a personality for my tulpa?

(Lumi did not exercise any unique methods past this, just LOTS of time spent focused on us people-to-be in his head)

Deleted User

Shouldnt I create a personality for my tulpa?

Lucilyn: optional, your brain will kind of auto-generate one if you decide not to, and that's some people's preference (edited)

12:39 AM

but we personally do recommend having an idea of who your tulpa might be in mind yeah

12:40 AM

just know they may change a little here and there as they grow as a person, by having and processing new experiences

What is the difference between you, the tulpa, and the "original person"?

”original person” is created by the society

12:45 AM

and tulpa is created by you

TiCtAc(✧×✧)

”original person” is created by the society

Who are you?

Deleted User

What is the difference between you, the tulpa, and the "original person"?

Lucilyn: the host/original person in a brain has been slowly shaped by countless experiences over the body's entire lifetime (and in most cases, also lived believing/associating everything about the body/mind with their sense of self, rather than thinking of themselves as just a single identity that's plugged into the senses/consciousness) (edited)

12:50 AM

a tulpa is the same thing as a host is in this sense, except generally much much much less developed, with far fewer experiences having shaped their preferences, values, etc.

12:51 AM

but a tulpa can grow as a person just as the host does, and eventually there's not necessarily a difference anymore

12:51 AM

this is the core reasoning behind "Switching" being possible, the advanced technique of a host and tulpa switching positions (so the host is then as a tulpa normally is, and the tulpa is how the host normally is, fully connected to the senses and consciousness "driver's seat" and all)

Reisen

there are many people who will give you more complicated advice than this, but it's not necessary in the end

I think more complicated advice could be valuable in some instances. But only really if the basic technique fails... Or maybe not and just more commitment/self-reflection and reading on/opening to the idea. Or just asking about your doubts like this... I feel like I went on a pointless tangent

I agree. Some people benefit from more guidance than others

11:42 PM

Usually you can tell those people apart based on how they react to my replies :P

are there particular things tulpas/headmates like to do that are specific to being a tulpa? (edited)

dont think so

Juesto

are there particular things tulpas/headmates like to do that are specific to being a tulpa? (edited)

Troll their host occasionally

I tease my headmates too-

FlareonOFun ↩️

Reply to: Troll their host occasionally

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Juesto

are there particular things tulpas/headmates like to do that are specific to being a tulpa? (edited)

Well, my headmates seem to have roles, so they like to be specific to their roles Like eishi likes to make everyone happy, momo likes to defend me, and james likes to be miserable IFIFKFMFK

5:36 PM

(James is a guilt holder)

5:38 PM

I don't think of james as a tulpa at all though, but i think of eishi and momo as half-tulpas

can i introduce myself to my tulpa?

Yes.

i mean, you kinda have to

i guess so

i am having difficulty starting the conversation

1:42 AM

i can just say anything, right?

Yep, talk about whatever you'd like

I totally get that. I’m awful at conversations. Especially when the person I’m conversing with knows everything I do. But yeah you can say anything.

i am feeling anxiety and im unsure why. im just scared of screwing up and starting from base 1

it can be as simple as talking to them about what you're doing, or something that you see or watch happen

im trying to calm myself down but my mind is racing and its hard to focus.

1:45 AM

is being calm ideal for speaking to them?

I don’t think you can mess up.

ABANDONED ACCOUNT

is being calm ideal for speaking to them?

It's certainly easier to focus when you're calm, but if you want to talk to them when you're anxious that's okay too

this is just new to me and ive been very lonely and in need of a companion but everything sounds complicated and hard to do and im a bit panicked. were you guys anxious your first time?

I wasn't anxious, but i also didn't follow a very complicated guide

wasn’t anxious at all. I was excited. Also I don’t think it’s that complicated.

If you are scared then don’t do it, you aren’t ready. Do more research and ask questions before you make the choice to do it

true. I’ll agree with that

its not that im scared, im just overwhelmed with where to start. im worried my mind will drift off and make everything difficult

1:48 AM

ill try saying hello

ABANDONED ACCOUNT

its not that im scared, im just overwhelmed with where to start. im worried my mind will drift off and make everything difficult

It's okay if your mind drifts. You don't have a time limit. You can simply recenter when you're ready if your mind drifts

1. Talk to them ..that’s pretty much most important. Interacting with them. That’s what matters. It gives them the example and experience to build off of

Our original has ADHD so has that issue pretty often, it's not like they can control it so we're fairly understanding

Yeah we have adhd too so i get it It won't interfere with things if your mind drifts off though. It might just take a little longer

same. Just minus the hyper

1:51 AM

took me maybe around a week or so (but not more than two) to create Kira

i started with a brief introduction to her

1:52 AM

i got distracted though

That's okay

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It sounds like you don’t know enough to start yet, you don’t have to jump right into it

how will i know my tulpa is responding?

2:06 AM

will their voice sound in my head or sound like its outside my hed

It can sound like either i think, but for me it sounds like it's coming from inside my head

is it okay to just have one tulpa?

more than fine

Yeah, nothing wrong with having a small or large system

read this. What does it sound like? It’s a lot like that.

Sawyerly Sawyer ↩️

Reply to: will their voice sound in my head or sound like its outside my hed

2:11 AM

though could be a different voice

it sounds like im reading it in my head

you hear the words in your head

2:12 AM

it’s probably just like how your thoughts sound too. And it’s how their thoughts will sound. Just, like I said, mind voice may differ.

2:12 AM

I probably over explained that… sorry I should probably get to bed soon.

<im new to this so> what's the difference between switching and possession?

We've been discussing it in #tulpa-questions recently

In general, possession means the tulpa controlling the body while the host has ultimate say over the experience. Switching generally means a host and tulpa switching places OR a host "becoming" their tulpa. However, possession and switching are highly personalized and the reported experience can be very different from system to system

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thank you!